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0643: Talk in Father Christmas 6th May, 2021
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Mel Cormac
Drunk bubbles didn’t feel appropriate for this one, but I hope it’s clear that they are very, very not sober by that last panel.

Also, first panel? That’s a little titbit about Jon that I’ve been sitting on for a while, which a few people may have guessed already—he was 100% planned, but not that early.
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Opieus
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Based on the amount of liquid missing from that good scotch... I'm surprised they're still conscious.
Mel Cormac
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Mel Cormac
I'm often surprised by how much whiskey my family can drink in one evening and not fall over
steveha
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steveha
Genuine feels in that last panel.

Mel, could you please translate "three passing GCSEs" for those of us whose countries use different systems?

How many GCSEs are there... more than three? How many passing GCSEs are typical? Did Seth flunk completely out of high school or did he squeak by and barely got a high school degree, or what?
anonymous coward (Guest)
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What, the wikipedia articles on it aren't clear enough for you? To be honest, s'not clear enough for me either.

Short answer: Seth flunked/dropped out of "high school" (which was likely to have been a comprehensive instead of a grammar school). He would've had to pass a minimum of five GCSEs to get the GCSE and either graduate there or go on to two more years of school and A-Levels to try for university.
Mel Cormac
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Mel Cormac
I went through the education system in the UK, and it's kind of unclear to me too! Doesn't help that they changed it since I left school
anonymous coward (Guest)
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Yeah, let's not talk about the mess of incompetence, corruption, and incompetent corruption that characterizes that saga.

I'm amused that we have two, different, short answers to explain what's going on.
Mel Cormac
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Mel Cormac
So I'm probably going to get this wrong because I honestly find it very confusing myself and it's been a loooong time since I was at school (and the school system has changed a lot since I left!)

Short answer: Seth didn't get good enough grades to continue in school. He was expected to retake his exams, but he decided to go straight to work instead, and moved out (which in hindsight I'm pretty sure isn't legal, but hey)
Squirreltastic-Blue
Oh! This is the part where he falls into a deep sleep and dreams about saving Santa!
Guys! It's coming! It's coming, you guys! Guys!
MOM!!! GET THE CAMERA!!!
anonymous coward (Guest)
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The feels! About the stuff that was said in those first two panels, it's utterly vague about cause of death and the start of the relationship with mama Denise. Realistic, yes. Frustrating lack of details, also yes.

What about drunk flush and bloodshot eyes? The colour around the eyes is good though.

If Seth is being pissy over his dad getting together with the woman his mom picked out for him after she's gone then that's flatly unfair. There's a wide range of other possible starts to that relationship that don't deserve condemnation either. Last and not least, birth control is a thing that women can use too, so Denise getting pregnant with Jon "early" is not likely to have been strictly George's decision or fault alone.
Mel Cormac
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Mel Cormac
Yeah, Seth's grudge isn't entirely warranted, but George isn't without fault either, it's messy and weird.

I have thought about what exactly happened in their past, but am still very unsure if it will ever be explicitly stated in the comic itself. For now, you're right to suspect there's a lot more to the story that they're not talking about.

And with baby Jon arriving early, Seth's more frustrated than anything else, as that hadn't even occurred to him before
anonymous coward (Guest)
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That is messy and weird in the human relationships between people with different wants and expectations sense, and not the weird fetishes you hear about on the internet sense? If it is both, then I'd hope we get a suitably traumatic and embarrassing revelation scene.

(The comedy of those may at times be improved by the presence of at least one person who doesn't think it's a big deal. Then cue next year, Jon is the one that doesn't want to visit the folks for Christmas because he's not over it yet.)
Microraptor
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Microraptor
They would've needed a book called "Raising Dummies for Dummies"!
Mel Cormac
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Mel Cormac
Kinda! Oof, imagine finding that book in your parents' house though